After all, the worst camps were in Poland. What do they think? I have not lived in Germany for the better part of 5 years, but I would say GhostOne is right on the money here.
America today could fill many divisions of troops ready to commit genocide on a givin race, IMO. Communist) rivers or do some "underground" rivers in America also provide anti-American sediment? since he weasled his way into power and his brown shirts frightened opposition. Especially the part about i would hazard the guess that they believe there were more heroes in WW1 than WW2. Herman Goring was a hero in WW1 but a war criminal in WW2. I know we both won't agree on this, but there was a former Social Security Minister in the previous, conservative German government who once pointed out that soldiers fighting to defend Germany also fought (albeit unknowingly in many cases) to prolong the misery in the death camps, and helped to prop up a criminal regime. For many years, Germans viewed May 8 as a day of defeat, but this has changed over time. Secondly, I think that we can make up our own minds about this, after all I am not passing judgement about what I think the appropriate feelings of the English for the Opium War, or the Southerners for slavery ought to be. After a few years of this people don't remember how they got caught up in the domineering side, also it is very difficult for them to quit after they are in, they would become examples for the others in the group. What it all boils down to is that all of this is a part of history. (Actually, it's spelled correctly, just the wrong one). My grandfather was in the German military 30-45 (no officer), never a member of the party. After all, the worst camps were in Poland. To suggest the war and the death camps were entirely unconnected goes a bit too far, I should think. Aboot yer Kampain do shdamb oud mishbelingsh o shish bored - ve shee shrough yu!!!! Most Germans make a distinction between "Nazis" and "Germans," since not all Germans were Nazis, but most don't let themselves off the hook that easy. And that is what newspapers and books are, after all. His words were supported by most Germans, and to this day it is often cited by politicians and taught in schools.Merkel praised his speech when he died in 2015, calling it “a necessary, clear statement that was significant for our German self-image.”Another key moment came in 2004, when then-Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder marked the 60th anniversary of Col. Claus von Stauffenberg’s failed attempt to kill Hitler with a briefcase bomb. I think it is very good and inquisitive of Cpt.M. Maybe not in a way that they still do believe in these ideals but that these ideals are still in their mind because they heard it often and for a long time. Actually what I fear is that modern Germany forgets what happened and 10, 20, 30 years from now, the
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Originally posted by NCrawler: There, they were forced to reject their background and to accept the Nazi teachings. At the same time I do not think that the famous excuse "What was right then can not be wrong now" holds any water. What definitely still is there among some of the older generation are the "pro-nazi ideals". It would be interesting to get different current cultural perspectives from people from any country that was involved. There was a piece on 60 minutes as well, there is a woman from Austria who spent all her life showing the other people in her town how they were honoring people who committed atrocities, and so on. There is general agreement that it was a terrible evil that must never be repeated. Anyway, you cant ignore history, germany lost as did other countries, and some people have moved on, and some havent. And a lot of post-war German history is about this refusal. You can sign in to give your opinion on the answer. Just more rambling and first impressions from me.
They do teach in schools what happened during the war, since Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Live was getting better. The two were entirely separate things insofar as death camps had been up and running long before the war began. Anyway most germans nowadays see Hitler as a tyrant but still se the soldiers as their own.You would need to go to the German answers site to get comments on this question...click on the German flag at the bottom of the pageThe Germans won loads of battles during that war. How do germans feel about ww2 games? WATCH: Leaders from around the world gathered in Portsmouth, England for an emotional tribute to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day.quote:
Originally posted by von shrad: I am sure they will explain their views in detail. Strange question and if you read some news-papers you know how people think about certain ideas. I think that we should never forget what happened and what kind of atrocities were committed by the generation of my grand-father (and yes, I know other countries have their own skeletons, but that is something for them to deal with). So although people don't want to talk about it and try to bury the past, the threads are still there in the background. !I think a thing to be noted is that every country that Germany attacked started their own war of aggression against unwilling countries. We are no different. German Jewish teenager Anne Frank died in the Holocaust, but her memoir from her family's two years in hiding, published as "The Diary of Anne Frank," has been read by millions worldwide. Anyways I wholeheartedly disagree with blaming the fighting soldier for the crimes of his government ( unless he ACTIVELY and FULLY participates in such crimes). 2. It was the bloodiest conflict, as well as the largest war, in history. Manieri - Just travel to germany and ask some skin heads for their opinion. I would argue they are not as strong as they were in the 20s and 30s, perhaps because economics are better now.
They seem to have a hard time separating the war from the deathcamps..
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